They are going high tren, or high deca, or high EQ with low test and it is working very well for everyone I know who is trying it. Apparently they are also finding that EQ year round (obviously for cruise/blast guys) gives good strength gains, and that it really seems to start helping around the 16-20 week mark. Granted, this is fairly new to my circle of friends, and I may be repeating things that have already been known, but they are loving it. Far less sides, and better results. One dude is using 2 grams of EQ, and a gram of tren with 100mg test and went from around 290 to 310, and is significantly leaner now.